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The Prof Talks: Making ready for Competitors | U Carry out

Ben @ U Carry out: Whats up, all people. And welcome again to a different episode of The Prof Talks. The podcast delivered to you by each Professor Greg Whyte OBE and U Carry out. My identify is Ben. I’m joined by The Prof himself for one more barely completely different episode of The Prof Talks through which I get to ask the questions, or ought to I say, you get to ask the questions.

All our followers, viewers, and listeners get to ask something you wish to The Prof himself. Actually put him on his toes. And this week’s dialogue subject, as a result of competitors season is simply across the nook as we file this… we’re speaking about making ready for competitors.

The issues to do, the issues to not do most significantly. And Greg and I’ve received a couple of years mixed of competitors expertise. So hopefully we will draw on that have, these classes, these errors, most significantly, and hopefully present you all with the ideas, methods, recommendation, and simply confidence that it’s worthwhile to hit your competitors problem or occasion day in your greatest footing.

So, Greg, it’s going to be nice initially, simply to begin with you and simply ask, have been you a fan of competitions? As a result of I do know some individuals did not like race days.

Professor Greg Whyte OBE (The Prof): I beloved it. To be trustworthy with you. Have you learnt what I beloved coaching and I beloved competitors; it did not make any distinction to me actually.

And I feel, , the competitors was what drove the coaching. So, I feel it was form of a pure development to go from coaching into competitors. And I feel embracing competitors, then means what you begin to do is embrace coaching. So, I beloved it each.

Ben @ U Carry out: Superior. And also you talked about there that it form of drives your coaching. It drives that motivation. And so, for lots of people, we will cut up that form of preparation, that drive for motivation to compete into form of three sections. So, I like to think about the psychological preparation for competitors, the bodily preparation and possibly sport or exercise particular; the technical preparation.

For us in multisport and triathlon, technical preparation is vital, however psychological and bodily preparation is actually, key. So, in the event you would not thoughts simply form of breaking down the ideas and methods you have got round psychological preparation, we will get issues began.

 That is one thing we have touched on in a couple of episodes beforehand, the thought of mindset and aim setting and motivation. We actually want to listen to what you assume within the context of competitors on psychological preparation.

Professor Greg Whyte OBE (The Prof): You understand, it is fairly broad. I feel. I feel the attention-grabbing factor is that always what individuals attempt to do, , and also you’re proper it is bodily, psychological, technical, tactical and all of these come collectively. And I feel usually what individuals attempt to do is that they attempt to partition them in coaching.

So, , this coaching is for bodily preparation. After which what we will do is I will have some specialist, focus on technical and tactical, and clearly then psychology I will construct that on high.

And to my thoughts they’re conjoined. They’re all collectively. Each single session. If I am doing a session, I am doing a number of issues throughout that session. There’s clearly the bodily preparation. However critically it is the psychological preparation. And I feel that is the place the significance of coaching and planning of coaching is that what you are making an attempt to do is replicate as intently as you possibly can competitors.

So, I feel what’s key in doing that’s that you’re asking yourself in coaching what you will ask of your self in competitors. Whether or not it is how exhausting it will be. And I feel invariably this, it is all the time the attention-grabbing one. I feel once you come out for the primary race of the season, you assume, how robust was that?

I imply, how intense was that? Invariably as a result of that is the depth wasn’t within the session. You thought you have been coaching exhausting, but it surely wasn’t race exhausting. And so, I feel ensuring that you simply get that into the coaching session, in that development, you’re planning for that previous to racing in order that racing it should not be a shock I feel is vital with that.

I feel the opposite factor round that’s the distress. It is in the direction of the top of the race once you’re considering to your self, how a lot additional, I am unable to go on. I am drained. Nicely, coaching ought to replicate that.

And that clearly what you are not doing is actually replicating. In the event you’re an Ironman triathlete, you are not going to do an Ironman in coaching, however definitely what you are able to do is practice fatigued after which perceive what it will be like. So, , Brick classes, for instance, are an excellent instance of that.

What’s it going to really feel like? What is the final 10 km of the marathon going to really feel like off the again of the bike and brick classes can deliver that to you. So, I feel the one factor I might say about psychological preparation, I feel the vital factor is to just be sure you construct it into coaching regularly and that your planning of coaching is concentrated on that supply to competitors fairly than competitors being this uncommon shock occasion, which now each physique thoughts, technical and tactical merely aren’t prepared for.

Ben @ U Carry out: I feel it is attention-grabbing form of the purpose you made about race day, should not be a shock. You understand, we all the time speak about how we should always management the controllable and that feeling of depth, that tactical form of mixture together with your bodily situation, that ought to be utterly controllable on that race day.

You understand, some of the well-known quotes I’ve heard, I feel it was Tim Don; practice exhausting, and the race ought to be straightforward. It is an attention-grabbing paradox for somebody who’s competed like Tim Don at each Olympic degree brief distance racing all over to holding the Ironman world file at one level, it is simply having that distinction and having that consciousness of, have you learnt what race day goes to be actually exhausting competitors day goes to be exhausting.

And it is that actuality test beforehand and going have you learnt what if I can simply observe it a few occasions then you definately’re going to have the ability to higher take care of it. After which definitely in multi-sport racing that tactical factor. In case you are below stress, bodily, you are going to make poor tactical selections. You are going to make poor pacing selections.

And that transfers throughout a number of sports activities and actions. In case you are below stress bodily, your mind can be going to be below stress and you are going to make some foolish strikes that would put your complete race day, your complete plan out of the window. You understand, chances are you’ll be working with a coach, or chances are you’ll be form of managing your individual preparation, however you’re virtually going to short-change your self by form of permitting your physique to take over and permitting your thoughts to only form of slip away and make silly selections.

Have you ever ever had an expertise of that on a day? As a result of I do know I’ve.

Professor Greg Whyte OBE (The Prof): Yeah, fairly uncommon. To be trustworthy with you. I feel what’s attention-grabbing, Ben, whilst you’re speaking there may be, is that this factor that I have a tendency to speak to my guys about, I name it the distress gauge. Is that I feel that coaching is a chance to reset your distress gauge.

The basic instance I all the time bear in mind with Greg James who I sorted, we did a few completely different challenges collectively, however I bear in mind the one Pedal to the Peaks. We have been doing an terrible lot on the bike, and he got here right into a session one morning and he mentioned to me, he mentioned, what we doing to this morning? What are we doing?

I mentioned as we speak, mate, I will reset your distress gauge. And he checked out me as if I used to be, , some form of lunatic. After which he absolutely understood after I handed him the bucket for him to vomit into midway by the session. He understood what I used to be speaking about and what I used to be speaking about there actually is the truth that, , it’s what Tim is speaking to.

That concept of practice exhausting, race straightforward. Is that successfully, , coaching ought to be supra maximal at factors. You ought to be actually pushing the envelope. You ought to be going quicker than you’re in racing, in competitors. It ought to be tougher. It ought to really feel tougher. And I feel what’s vital about that that’s when you find yourself racing, really to some extent it could possibly really feel straightforward.

The purpose being, it feels simpler than these robust classes. So, we have this distress line and what we’re making an attempt to do, , we have zero distress at one finish the place we’re sat down watching the tele and on the different finish, it is principally the worst we have ever felt, , in coaching and competitors.

And what we’re making an attempt to do is simply edge that up in order that what then occurs is every part under that feels simpler than that time. And I feel that that is vital as a result of that basically does play on the psychology and I am certain all people’s listening now. Now you get to the purpose you assume, ah, that is brutal. That is distress. So, what you do to flee that you simply decelerate.

Ben @ U Carry out: And is that this distress gauge completely completely different for everyone? Is that this one thing that everyone can fairly naturally have the ability to decide up on of their coaching?

Professor Greg Whyte OBE (The Prof): Yep. 100%. And it’s totally private. And, additionally, , it’s totally aim oriented as properly. You understand, what are you making an attempt to attain? The sting of that distress gauge for Ironman, for instance, triathlon, for an ultra-endurance race could be very completely different. You understand, I bear in mind racing the Marathon de Sables a couple of years in the past, and on the lengthy day, which was a hundred-kilometre day. Simply the distress related to that.

And that wasn’t about velocity or depth. It was simply concerning the form of incessant nature throughout the desert on this, , huge warmth, over 40 levels centigrade. So, the distress could be very particular. That is a really completely different distress to a brief course triathlon dash distance triathlon it is a completely different kind of distress.

So due to this fact, coaching ought to replicate what that kind of distress goes to be. After which it’s totally a lot about you and the way you deal with that and the coping methods psychologically that you’ve for that distress.

We’re not portray an excellent image about competitors, are we?

Ben @ U Carry out: Sadly, not.

We’re, actually making an attempt. I feel we are attempting, it is simply such an enormous subject and there is clearly, there’s so many issues to think about. Sport and exercise train, in any manner is actually, complicated. So, I feel I need to deliver it again to form of extra on the bodily preparation aspect of issues.

As a result of if we actually need to train our our bodies, then train our minds what it will be like. We have all heard of tapering or maybe not all people has heard of tapering. And we have all in all probability seen a couple of individuals in our form of sport environments. I wish to name them coaching champions the place they’re distinctive in coaching. They grasp the taper, however then on race day, they’re simply, they are not there. And it, it appears weird that all of the sudden that effort and pure class that they will characterize in coaching simply disappears.

So, I might be actually , to listen to your experiences in that form of coaching and tapering setting and assist form of break it down for individuals. What issues they need to be looking for and what issues that they should not be doing most significantly.

Professor Greg Whyte OBE (The Prof): The taper. I imply individuals might need heard of peaking. You understand, peeking, tapering, all these issues are form of the preparation for competitors the place successfully what you are doing is you are offloading. So, coaching quantity is decreasing to be able to absolutely recuperate. And I feel what’s attention-grabbing about that that’s definitely for me and I feel for many individuals I’ve labored with and talked to is that a lot of that tapering is definitely psychological as it’s bodily.

The psychology of tapering is vital as properly, in addition to the form of physiology of it. However I feel in all probability the trickiest a part of the coaching season is the taper. As a result of in the event you offload quantity an excessive amount of, you lose situation. And so due to this fact you get slower. In the event you do not offload sufficient, then really you do not recuperate. And so, it actually is sort of a tough a part of the season. I feel a a lot of it comes right down to expertise. I feel if, in case you are very skilled , you watch athletes who’re very skilled they usually, they usually flip up completely on the nail to each race as a result of they know precisely what they’re doing.

I feel in the event you’re first a primary timer, I feel it is fairly a nervous time. Immediately you’re offloading coaching. You assume I ought to be doing extra coaching. And I feel that typically. I feel newcomers to racing are overtrained.

I feel the worry, the worry of not doing sufficient typically drives an excessive amount of coaching in that taper part. On that. I feel it is about taking recommendation, speaking to the fitting individuals, speaking to folks that know and understanding your self. And, that it’ll develop throughout time, but it surely’s a tough factor to do.

So, normally, what we’re speaking about once you speak about coaching quantity. Coaching quantity is created or made up of frequency, period, and depth. Of which depth might be essentially the most potent stimulus. It is the one that basically does form of do the harm in the event you like. And so, what we’re doing is we’re controlling these three parts.

So, after we speak about decreasing coaching quantity what we’re prone to be doing in a taper part for an Olympic distance triathlon for instance, is we’re decreasing the period of the classes. We might not be altering the frequency of the session, so we is perhaps doing as many classes, however what these classes are, is shorter, however with a better depth, , so we begin to transfer into that very particular race tempo work that we go in, however we actually do shorten it.

After which as we get nearer, the frequency begins to drop as properly. So, we have this gradual, we discount in coaching quantity as we come into the race. However on the similar time, what we’re doing is we’re being very particular about the kind of work that we will do to be sure that what we’re doing is dashing up. We’re not dropping situation and we’re race prepared.

Ben @ U Carry out: And in these moments, it is also vital relying on the game or exercise to form of observe the technical and tactical parts as properly. So, while you are bringing in race particular depth, you may also observe these psychological parts round technical preparation and tactical preparation.

So, you are form of placing all the jigsaw items collectively. So once more, once you flip up on competitors day, none of it’s a shock. You have virtually been there, carried out that. You have received the t-shirt, it is a case of simply placing it again on and doing it as soon as extra, simply. with a number of different individuals round you, versus possibly simply by yourself, such as you normally do in coaching. Would you agree with that?

Professor Greg Whyte OBE (The Prof): You are proper, however I feel there’s one caveat to that and we see it yearly. The most effective place to look, I feel is all the time London marathon. And watch the quantity of people that cross the end line with blood seeping out the highest of their footwear.

And that’s as a result of what they’ve carried out is that they’ve panicked. Two weeks out, every week out, they’ve panicked, they usually’ve purchased a brand new pair of trainers. And it is the basic mistake that you simply see yearly on the large metropolis marathons. And so, I feel the hot button is sure, you are proper, is that, , it’s a nice time in that taper. It is a good time to actually hone these expertise.

So, for instance, with triathlon, the transitions, , the swim to bike after which the bike to run transitions. However the backside line is that it ought to nonetheless be at that time icing on the cake. You understand, a number of that work ought to have began previous to this taper.

You understand, you ought to be doing brick classes the place you’ve got received transition phases in coaching. So essentially, what you are doing. And so due to this fact in that taper part, what you’re doing together with your coaching is you’re simply tweaking it. You are not making large adjustments. You are not shopping for a brand new pair of trainers.

You have not purchased a brand new bike. You understand, in the event you’re swim racing, what you have not all of the sudden carried out is modified your tactical strategy. You are not a 200-freestyle swimmer who has determined that you simply’re really going to exit as quick as you possibly can over the primary 50, once you spent the entire of your coaching interval engaged on the center 50, .

I feel what’s actually vital about that’s you are proper, it is an excellent alternative to hone these technical and tactical elements of coaching. However on the similar time, what you should not be doing is making main adjustments to the efficiency as a result of the, the one factor that you ought to be assured in are these technical and tactical points. You understand as a result of they’re the issues that you would be able to actually get proper.

So, you should not flip as much as the race line of a triathlon and be apprehensive about how you are going to get your footwear on for the bike. However you do see it, you do see it simply, they form of panic and since they have not practiced it. And I feel the concept that observe makes excellent is true. I feel in all probability prolong that’s the excellent observe makes excellent.

And so, , in coaching, you ought to be actually ensuring that you simply concentrate on these technical and tactical elements, so that you get it proper. In order that on race day, it is simply an extension of coaching. It is simply one other coaching session, at larger depth in opposition to different individuals.

Ben @ U Carry out: Yeah, and I feel that is, what is going on to be form of vital for most individuals simply form of make it a barely extra relatable.

It is rather private, however , the best way I like to have a look at it and the best way I’ve developed, sure, observe makes excellent, such as you mentioned, however I feel excellent observe makes everlasting, virtually. You understand, the thought of getting good habits by good observe is form of crucial factor, particularly for very technical and tactical sports activities, like triathlon, regardless of the distance is.

There’s lots of people, all doing various things and you could possibly cross over, and you could possibly have a whole panic second as a result of another person has carried out one thing that you simply did not put together for. And it is nearly having that confidence to go, have you learnt what I am good.

Professor Greg Whyte OBE (The Prof): The identical was true, curiously. The identical is true about vitamin. I imply, my favorite is to all the time watch guys that flip as much as race day having by no means used vitamin throughout coaching and all of the sudden, they have a shot belt. They have a belt with pictures on it. I bear in mind as soon as my spouse was working the Studying half marathon, which wasn’t my favourites of all time. I watched this man come previous and it fairly clearly was a triathlete.

He had a shot belt on for a half marathon with 12 gel sachets. I am considering, primary, you do not want something for a half marathon. Quantity two, in the event you take these 12 in, I can completely assure you GI misery and certain diarrhoea and vomiting related to that. Usually some individuals assume you’ve got to do one thing completely different in racing you do in coaching. You have not. The one distinction is that all of the sudden as an alternative of it being in opposition to your self or in opposition to the clock, it is now in opposition to different individuals, that is the one distinction in relation to racing.

Ben @ U Carry out: Yep. And vitamin, clearly we have simply began speaking about it. It was going to be my subsequent level anyway, so that you’re one step forward of me.

And I feel vitamin is an attention-grabbing one as a result of I feel a number of individuals panic each on race day, on competitors day, but in addition simply as a lot beforehand, . What do you eat earlier than? What do you eat the evening earlier than? The day earlier than? The week earlier than, how do you put together your self from a dietary standpoint?

Everybody has their very own rituals and routines. I’ve a pizza earlier than each race day, as a result of if it was adequate for the Brownlee Brothers as soon as upon a time, it was adequate for me. And I just do fairly like pizza. In order that works for me I discovered.

Is there one thing that you’ve discovered over your form of sporting profession? Do you have got a favorite pre-race meal? And is there one thing that you could possibly suggest to individuals to assist simply form of discover what works for them? Any form of ideas and methods?

Professor Greg Whyte OBE (The Prof): The attention-grabbing factor is there’s form of a science of it after which there’s an expertise of it and a lived expertise of it.

And I feel, , definitely again within the nineties I might say type eighties into the nineties, was this idea of carbohydrate loading. The concept what you ought to be doing previous to an occasion is consuming as many carbs as you probably can, as a lot as doable, , dragging it in there.

And really, there was a, there was a penchant into the nineties, the place what you’ll do is you’ll successfully carbohydrate deplete for a time period. And then you definately would then tremendous compensate within the form of three to 4 to 5 days. And this developed over time into the race day the place you have been consuming excessive carbohydrates.

That then modified with analysis, and we understood that truly you solely must do it on the 24 hours previous to racing to optimise that muscle glycogen, liver, glycogen focus. And what do we predict now? Nicely, I feel to my thoughts, it really works for me. I like that strategy. I feel it does depend upon race distance. I feel, , to some extent the shorter race distances require much less concentrate on, on that carbohydrate load, as a result of you ought to be due to the discount in coaching quantity and the normality of vitamin round that, you ought to be growing glycogen shops anyway.

There is a pretty debate and argument fixed that goes on about fats utilisation and fats adaptation for the longer distance athletes. I imply, as I all the time say to my colleagues, my vitamin colleagues, I’ve by no means met an ultra-endurance athlete who wasn’t fats tailored. I feel that, , that is the purpose is that coaching by its very nature induces that fats adaptation.

The brief reply to that query is I feel it’s what works for you. I feel once more, expertise right here actually does matter. It is attention-grabbing individuals, individuals snicker at me after I say it, however, , I’ve spoken to Olympic gold medallists all over to first timers, they usually’ve all received these little Foy balls, these little issues that they love to do, and it is perhaps carrying the identical pants, the identical pair of socks.

It, it could possibly even come right down to the best way through which they dress previous to racing. What they placed on first, how they put it on. That turns into. It is a behavior. There are many individuals who say you should not have that as a result of if one thing adjustments, it is not going to work.

However I feel to some extent, I feel having that routine previous to racing is sort of vital as a result of what it does is, is it’s the way you put together for a race and from a psychological perspective, it is, I imply, it is virtually purely psychological. It is what you’re doing is you’re prepping; you are form of zoning in steadily into that race.

I might be very cautious about making that form of set-in stone. I feel be versatile in that as a result of issues change, , I imply, look, notably once you’re touring overseas or, , competing internationally, usually you possibly can’t essentially get the issues that you would be able to once you’re at residence.

So, you do must have flexibility in that and never panic and never be apprehensive if you cannot do the precise routine. However I feel to my thoughts, I feel routine is sweet. And once more, going again to the sooner level. Do not panic and do one thing. I imply, I like the factor that you simply say, , if it labored for the Brownlee Brothers, it’s going to work for me.

I can inform you it is in all probability the worst approach to put together for a race. Until you’ve got carried out it earlier than. You mentioned the Brownlee Brothers did it, you tried it and it labored for you. Good. So due to this fact, you proceed doing it. I’ve spoken to so many individuals who say, oh yeah. I learn an article final week and it mentioned that I ought to have a vindaloo the evening earlier than a race.

After which nonetheless puzzled why they spent more often than not in the bathroom previous to previous to the beginning of the race. You understand, it is these kinds of issues. I feel, once more, do not panic. Do not attempt one thing new on race day. It’s best to have tried it in coaching. It’s best to have experimented with it.

It’s best to have honed it to be sure that it really works for you. And in the event you’ve carried out that, then you definately may be rather more assured. And keep in mind that what we’re making an attempt to construct right here is confidence. You may be rather more assured that what you do pre-race goes to be just right for you.

Ben @ U Carry out: I feel every part we have mentioned all the best way up up to now, it is all about constructing that confidence, constructing that calmness with an virtually routine, however not one hundred percent form of set-in stone.

We have to be versatile. In order that we will simply have peace of thoughts and, , peace in physique that we’re capable of then deal with no matter’s coming in the direction of us as a result of we have carried out it earlier than and we’re going to have the ability to do it time and again, and once more, and once more, hopefully, , we will maintain doing it as a result of that is the rationale why we maintain turning as much as coaching classes that we maintain turning as much as occasion days on weekends.

You understand, as a result of we love the fun of doing it virtually, however we additionally love the form of the progress and the aim facet, that manner that it helps us progress by our lives and work together with different individuals.

Professor Greg Whyte OBE (The Prof): The attention-grabbing factor on that as properly, , whilst you’re saying that, I feel what’s attention-grabbing is that the racing, I feel, generally racing is a part of the coaching and I feel individuals form of lose sight of that.

And I feel that’s why it is vital. You understand, race preparation, there’s nothing higher for race preparation than racing and I feel, , while you construction coaching in the fitting manner, and you have every part carried out, you’ve got received the taper down, all that form of stuff.

You do not actually know if it really works till you race. And so, I feel there’s nothing flawed. You understand, lots of people will simply concentrate on one race a yr, , as a result of you possibly can solely taper annually. Nicely, I imply, it’s true that you would be able to solely form of absolutely taper. I’ve written on this, , a lot previously, you possibly can possibly taper twice a yr.

In the event you can taper 3 times a yr, you are extremely skilled and really, very top quality. So, it it is true about that form of final taper. However I feel there may be nothing flawed with turning as much as early season races only for race expertise. And what, you need to end on the rostrum, however you may not end on the rostrum, however you’ve got realized one thing by that course of, which goes to ship you to that large aim.

So, this concept of aim setting, the brief, medium time period aim races ought to all be constructing expertise onto what you have already got with the intention to ship on the large race, that one race the place you actually need to do properly.

Ben @ U Carry out: I feel that is vital for maybe the youthful and the much less skilled athletes to have that confidence that, , it is okay to show as much as an occasion and be barely undercooked since you’re nonetheless going to be taught one thing.

You are in all probability going to be taught extra by turning as much as that race, not at your hundred %. So then once you get to the precise large day occasion that, , your correct aim, precisely what to do, since you’ve carried out some racing earlier than, you’ve got realized what to not do. You have realized what works after which you possibly can go for that final taper on the large day.

And hopefully, in the event you’re chasing a podium spot, you will get that podium spot. Or in the event you simply fairly merely need to get by it with as little struggling as doable, there’s all the time going to be struggling at any degree. You understand, you’ll obtain that as properly. And that is crucial factor competitors offers us that stimulus, that coaching has additionally been serving to us to organize for.

Professor Greg Whyte OBE (The Prof): It is attention-grabbing. As a result of I speak an terrible lot about this and folks all the time snicker, however I speak about this factor known as the glad financial institution. And I feel, , the best way to strategy that’s that what you should assume is that the mind essentially is a financial institution of experiences. And I feel the extra expertise you possibly can make investments into that glad financial institution.

And that’s what I am speaking about right here is coaching, essentially the extra coaching that you would be able to put in. The extra focused coaching, very particular, deliberate all these issues. However what you’re doing is you are investing into this glad financial institution. In order that on race day, what you are able to do is you possibly can withdraw from that glad financial institution.

You understand, in the event you come right into a race utterly unprepared then all of the sudden you run out of glad credit very, very quickly. After which it turns into purgatory ; it turns into distress very early on. Whereas, in the event you’ve carried out all of the coaching accurately, in the event you’ve received the technical and tactical sorted, in the event you’ve received your vitamin sorted, every part is true, then all of the sudden you begin to transfer by this race and you have not withdrawn any happiness but as a result of every part’s going to plan. It is doing what you need to, and it is solely within the latter levels that you must begin withdrawing. However since you’ve received a lot happiness in there since you’ve ready so properly, you possibly can actually get pleasure from these latter levels.

Two most vital issues about racing. I feel primary is that you simply cross the road having given it one hundred percent. And you’ll be proud about the truth that you gave it every part you’ve got received. And I feel the second factor about that’s to partially and sometimes it is retrospectively, the place you form of look again on it, however get pleasure from what you do. And I feel in the event you do each of these issues, would not matter whether or not you go on the rostrum or not, since you already achieved success.

Ben @ U Carry out: Yeah, and I feel that is such a good way to complete, such a good way to bookend. We began originally on the distress gauge and we will end within the glad financial institution.

There isn’t any higher approach to end that. So as soon as once more, thanks very a lot, Greg. We’ll be again very, very quickly with one other spherical of questions, dialogue subjects to maintain you in your toes and to maintain me on my toes, most significantly, having to maintain up with you is a problem in itself. Extra so than an Olympic distance triathlon virtually.

So, thanks very a lot for that. And we are going to see you very quickly.

Professor Greg Whyte OBE (The Prof): Nice. Nice to talk. I am going to converse to you quickly. 



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